Vikrant 'nerd' Aivalli (![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} aivalli) wrote,@ 2007-02-02 01:23:00 |
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| Current location: | Pune |
| Current mood: | sleepy |
| Current music: | Maa Tujhe Salam - A.R.Rahman |
| Entry tags: | blogging., bluetooth, e50, gprs, lyfe, nokia, palm, pda, techonogy, wifi, zire 72 |
Totally confused on what to use!
First points first:
- My Palm Zire 72 is in ICU.
- I recently bought a Nokia E50.
- About a month ago I bought an Acer Aspire 5000 laptop.
- My current work place is 5 mins walk.
- No internet at my $HOME save for GPRS, which is OK for now.
As I mentioned that my Zire 72 is in the ICU, I figured that since I am addicted to it I desperately needed a replacement. Zire 72 was the best mix one could (read:can, coz there is not replacement model, even now!) get at its time. I meant a decent camera for photo-blogging + PDA. Photo bloggin (a.k.a
clixonerdy) never took off big time. :-( It has bluetooth but I have started to miss WiFi on account that I am a poweruser of Avantgo (and alike)!Following is the chat script at irc.freenode.net on #palm:
Conversation with #palm
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(00:48:21) aivalli: hi folks
(00:48:38) aivalli: I am buying a Lifedrive
(00:48:54) aivalli: anyone else has any suggestions ?
(00:49:03) aivalli: if its a good solution
(00:49:21) aivalli: I want a Palm with large storage
(00:50:24) aivalli: is there something better lurking around - if I wait for a while ?
(00:53:39) aivalli: helooooo anyone ? :)
(00:54:40) balrog-kun: LD should be fine
(00:55:36) balrog-kun: there are other modern pdas but probably nothing a whiole lot better than LD
(00:56:03) balrog-kun: unless we count the new linux phones
(00:56:30) Dekaritae: Khaytsus: Work on LJP ceased at RC3, but LJR is still going
(00:56:56) Dekaritae: aivalli: A LD or Zodiac are good options
(00:57:10) Dekaritae: The LD takes a Microdrive or CF card and one SD card
(00:57:16) Dekaritae: The Zodiac takes two SD cards
(00:57:20) Dekaritae: I have 8GB in mine
(00:58:42) Dekaritae: And Dmitry from 1src.com is working on an SDHC driver for PalmOS, which will allow some devices to work with 8GB+ SDHC cards
(00:58:46) balrog-kun: there are 8GB SD cards?
(00:58:50) Dekaritae: SDHC
(00:59:04) balrog-kun: i need to read up on this then
(00:59:09) Dekaritae: http://froogle.google.com/froogle_url?q=h
(00:59:18) Dekaritae: Er
(00:59:21) Dekaritae: http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-Kingston-SD-HC-S
(00:59:29) Dekaritae: No.
(01:00:09) balrog-kun: ah ok, wikipedia comes with some explanation
(01:00:18) Dekaritae: This one: http://ca.shop.com/amos/cc/main/prod/act/3
(01:00:21) tombs left the room ("N.Y.H.C.").
(01:00:27) Dekaritae: Right now only the Treo 680 and 700p support them
(01:00:51) balrog-kun: so they don't work with a standard MMC/SD host right?
(01:01:09) Dekaritae: No, but Dmitry believes that the IO driver from the 680 will work with any SDIO slot
(01:01:29) balrog-kun: i see
(01:01:36) balrog-kun: yeah it could be possible
(01:03:57) Dekaritae: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.ph
(01:04:51) Dekaritae: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.ph
(01:04:53) aivalli: whoa sorry had gone away
(01:05:43) ***balrog-kun tends to avoid .com pages when looking for technical info
(01:06:09) aivalli: LOL @ balrog-kun
(01:09:25) aivalli: Dekaritae: what is the highest onboard storage on a zod ?
(01:11:33) Dekaritae: What I have right now, two 4GB SD cards
(01:11:51) Dekaritae: But the case I use lets me carry around two extra cards
(01:12:19) Dekaritae: So I could theoretically have 16GB of storage with me at any time
(01:12:56) Dekaritae: Though all I have is a spare 2GB and 1GB cards in it
(01:16:13) Khaytsus: Dekaritae: I didn't mean LJP, I meant Crazy Frog crap
(01:16:26) Khaytsus: But I just started using LJP today, had been using Phoinix.
(01:16:38) Khaytsus: My Treo 650 didn't have enough dynamic ram for it before, but the 680 is fine
(01:16:46) Dekaritae: No
(01:16:48) Dekaritae: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077831/
(01:17:22) Dekaritae: LJP is awesome, yes. It even takes ZSBNES save games, IIRC
(01:17:27) Dekaritae: ZSNES, durr
(01:17:34) Khaytsus: What's znes?
(01:17:37) Khaytsus: zsnes
(01:17:39) Khaytsus: Zipped?
(01:17:46) Dekaritae: Windows/DOS Emulator
(01:17:56) Dekaritae: I'm using LJP RC2 to play through a "Link to the Past" rom hack called "Parallel Worlds"
(01:18:05) aivalli: another question folks
(01:18:10) Dekaritae: http://www.zsnes.com/
(01:18:12) Dekaritae: Sure
(01:18:37) Khaytsus: I played Zelda 3 a little
(01:18:40) aivalli: will SDHC card readers will read SD cards ?
(01:18:54) Khaytsus: I played Links Awakening on Phoinix but could NOT control it well enough to beat the first boss :(
(01:19:01) Khaytsus: aivalli: yes
(01:19:07) Khaytsus: but not the other way around
(01:19:07) balrog-kun: yes, according to wikipedia
(01:19:10) aivalli: Khaytsus: kewl !
(01:19:32) Khaytsus: Dekaritae: Aha yes, I've played Links Awakening on the workstation using that, come to think of it.
(01:19:43) Khaytsus: aivalli: I don't know any Palm's that will do SDHC however
(01:20:04) Dekaritae: The Treo 680 and 700 will work with SDHC cards
(01:20:06) aivalli: does anyone have a decent guess on how long my Zire 72 will live ? :)
(01:20:15) Dekaritae: http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9158/t
(01:20:24) Khaytsus: Dekaritae: I've heard *some* work.. but not supported
(01:20:30) Khaytsus: So perhaps
(01:20:33) aivalli: I wanna gift it to my mom I have had it for about 3 years I think
(01:20:33) Dekaritae: aivalli: It can live a long time, if you are good to it
(01:20:57) aivalli: Dekaritae: thanks
(01:21:01) Khaytsus: If you don't damage the screen, digitizer, etc, it'll last a long time, especially if you treat the battery well.
(01:21:16) Dekaritae: You might have to replace the battery now and then, as the cells tend to drop mean usable voltage over time
(01:21:20) Khaytsus: However, LiIon's will start deteriorating after 2-3 years, so the battery life might start decreasing
(01:21:27) aivalli: Khaytsus: I 90% charge it with the USB method
(01:21:31) Khaytsus: Although that probably means she'll need to charge it once a week with light usage
(01:21:58) Khaytsus: aivalli: Treating LiIon well means not totally discharging it a lot.. they prefer to be cahrged early and often verses ran all the way down all the time
(01:21:59) aivalli: and its generally on USB allteh time
(01:22:01) Dekaritae: I recently upgraded my Zodiac from a 1500 mAh battery that was a few years old, to a brand new 2000 mAh battery
(01:22:12) Dekaritae: I've gone from 3.5 hours of regular use to around 5.5
(01:22:16) Khaytsus: Then it's likely in pretty good shape
(01:22:41) aivalli: yeah save for the rubber paint goof up of palm folks
(01:22:57) aivalli: I call it skin disease ! ;)
(01:23:02) Khaytsus: The type of paint that starts flaking off where touched?
(01:23:05) Dekaritae: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion
(01:23:18) Dekaritae: Hurr
(01:23:20) aivalli: Khaytsus: yeah ! :(
(01:23:24) Khaytsus: My Thinkpad 600E was like that... where my palms touched it the paint bubbled
(01:23:31) ***Dekaritae will never buy a PDA that doesn't have a metal case
(01:23:39) aivalli: Dekaritae: even me !
(01:23:44) Khaytsus: What's funny is that the metal under it corroded to a black color, so it doesn't look all that different now ;-)
(01:23:50) Dekaritae: Zodiac is awesome in this respect. It's the most solid feeling PDA I've ever used
(01:23:51) aivalli: I wanna buy lifedrive wih the metal case
(01:24:01) aivalli: the one for palm just rawks ! :)
(01:24:02) Dekaritae: I mean metal casing
(01:24:45) Dekaritae: The Zodiac's front and back casing panels are made of metal, and not painted
(01:25:07) aivalli: I liked this conversation a lot - is it ok if I post this to my blog ?
(01:25:23) Dekaritae: You may
(01:25:27) aivalli: :)
(01:26:24) Dekaritae: One option I've seen is to mod your Palm so that the battery can be removed easily
(01:27:01) Dekaritae: So that, if you are going to leave it sitting in the charger for an extended period, you can remove the battery and save drain on it
(01:27:07) Dekaritae: This only works for NVRAM devices, though
(01:29:40) aivalli: balrog-kun: you mentioned the linux devices - how are they better ?
(01:31:21) balrog-kun: aivalli: they run a full blown OS, but also the ones i know have cutting-edge hardware in them (openmoko, greenphone)
(01:31:50) balrog-kun: openmoko has no wifi but has more ram than all other devices and other good stuff
(01:32:04) aivalli: any evices alrady on sale ?
(01:32:31) balrog-kun: i think greenphone is on sale
(01:32:32) aivalli: and what is the distinct advantage of buying that in place of lifedrive ?
(01:33:26) balrog-kun: well, i don't have a lifedrive, but...
(01:33:44) balrog-kun: if you want a plain PDA there's probably no real advantage
(01:34:43) aivalli: basically I want a new palm, I was thinking of clubbin the storage,
(01:34:59) balrog-kun: btw lifedrive can use a 6GB microdrive too, afaik
(01:35:00) aivalli: and then was looking at the 'new-age' devices
(01:35:26) aivalli: balrog-kun: which will give me ~10 GB on the moooooooooooove ! :)
(01:36:40) aivalli: balrog-kun: how do the hardware on linux based devices compare with lifedrive ?
(01:36:57) aivalli: does that make me spend extra on hte storage devices ?
(01:38:20) balrog-kun: all the linux devices are extremely expensive already
(01:38:41) aivalli: ok so I think I'll stick to my decision to get a lifedrive !
(01:40:57) johwil [n=orlando@unaffiliated/johwil] entered the room.
(01:41:06) aivalli: can lifedrive read SDHC ?
(01:41:32) balrog-kun: nope, at least not with the factory software
(01:42:38) aivalli: but you think that would be hackable ?
(01:43:48) balrog-kun: imho very difficult unless Dmitry comes up with something and makes it public as Dekaritae mentioned, but Dmitry tends to sell things
(01:44:02) aivalli: oh ok
(01:44:04) balrog-kun: if you're looking for storage there are PDAs with usb host function too, you can use usb sticks or databanks with them
(01:44:23) aivalli: they run palm OS ?
(01:44:28) aivalli: example ?
(01:44:41) aivalli: there is drivemode for lifedrive right ?
(01:44:55) balrog-kun: windows mobile, i don't know of any Palm with usb host
(01:45:04) balrog-kun: yes
(01:46:56) aivalli: ok (again) no more wavering from the decisoin on lifedrive ! :)
(01:51:01) aivalli: thanks guys its was fun and informative talking ! :)
(01:51:08) aivalli: now to hit the bed!
(01:53:28) Dekaritae: Dmitry would probably have a problem with selling a hacked version of a PalmSource driver
(01:56:27) ***Dekaritae fantasies about running the Cobalt Simulator full-screen on an OQO model 02
So despite arriving at a decision on chat to get a Lifedrive. I am still stopped cold by
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atulchitnis and ti22. atulchitnis's arguement is Lifedrive has been stopped and is no longer available from Palm. ti22's argument is Lifedrive is old. I find that E50 is highly usable and a great business phone. So the big question is do I still need to get a Palm whatever! :-|
Answer will come along eventually in a short time.
More later!™
-nerdy
PS: Totally lost for now! :-(
